tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24141461.post8724083472380852049..comments2024-02-29T00:56:45.315-08:00Comments on Bryanna Clark Grogan’s Vegan Feast Kitchen/ 23rd Century Table: KUNG HEY FAH CHOY, SWEETHEART!Bryanna Clark Groganhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13235333928055873948noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24141461.post-34353818442925367122010-02-19T21:01:24.460-08:002010-02-19T21:01:24.460-08:00Thanks, Veghead! One correction,m though-- my dad...Thanks, Veghead! One correction,m though-- my dad was, indeed, Peruvian, but I can't claim any Persian ancestry, just a great appreciation for a rich culture.Bryanna Clark Groganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13235333928055873948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24141461.post-89836729391745990162010-02-19T20:27:23.343-08:002010-02-19T20:27:23.343-08:00The tone of Blase Kearney's original post is o...The tone of Blase Kearney's original post is outrageous. I seriously doubt that Ms. Grogan, who claims Peruvian and Persian ancestry (as well as others) and who goes out of her way to educate herself about and embrace the world's cultures needs to be lectured to like that. Ms. Grogan is a long time vegan and an innovator and author in vegan foods. A brief perusal of this blog would make those things clear and I would suggest that Blase Kearney do a little research and a lot of thinking before she takes someone to task like that in the future.vegheadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24141461.post-81713337827230220392010-02-19T13:26:43.098-08:002010-02-19T13:26:43.098-08:00Funny that you separate out the US from the rest o...Funny that you separate out the US from the rest of the world in response to my use of the term "worldwide." And funny that you use the term "those people" to refer to people with whom you are unfamiliar. I understand about cultural appropriation, which some folks here appear to be accusing Bryanna of, but you seem to imply that no one should even bother to try to learn about cultures other than their own, saying "we just can't understand." For example, I'm deaf. You can learn about my language and my culture and understand deafness. You may or may not be able to fully appreciate what it means to be deaf because you're not, but does that mean you shouldn't learn what you can, if you're motivated to do so?Sherylnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24141461.post-41398853488943272452010-02-19T13:20:04.158-08:002010-02-19T13:20:04.158-08:00Blase, this is what you wrote in your first post: ...Blase, this is what you wrote in your first post: <br /><br />"We aren't able to assess authenticity because we have no native knowledge of other cultures. There are things and ideas that we cannot understand because we aren't part of that world. **The same way we wouldn't really be able to understand how or why people in Apalachia would prefer meat and junk food over organic vegetarian alternatives.**" (my emphasis)<br /><br />As I said before, please review that statement and think on it. Obviously, I'm not the only one who saw the contradictions in it as you reprimanded me for being found wanting in the sensitivity department. <br /><br />Respectfully, we are going to end it here. This is not a forum to discuss vegan ethics, or whether we are all perfect vegans, etc.. (Some of my readers are not vegans, and they are welcome here, shocking as that may be.) This is a COOKING blog. There are lots of other venues for the type of discussion you obviously desire.Bryanna Clark Groganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13235333928055873948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24141461.post-77671870026791266742010-02-19T12:45:31.691-08:002010-02-19T12:45:31.691-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Blase Kearneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04260646570750502004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24141461.post-38768098738156510292010-02-19T12:37:26.003-08:002010-02-19T12:37:26.003-08:00Blase, even though you have a great vocabulary, yo...Blase, even though you have a great vocabulary, your paragraph makes no sense-- unlike Sheryl's, I believe, who was very gently pointing out to you the unfairness and, again, incorrect assumptions you were making about an entire group of people about whom, I suspect, you know nothing.<br /><br />I don't like the aggressivenes of your tone towards Sheryl and will end comments on this post entirely if it doesn't stay civil.Bryanna Clark Groganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13235333928055873948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24141461.post-90216003263344315932010-02-19T12:28:26.300-08:002010-02-19T12:28:26.300-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Blase Kearneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04260646570750502004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24141461.post-68644849982749636612010-02-19T12:13:29.037-08:002010-02-19T12:13:29.037-08:00Blase, I want to point out that meat consumption i...Blase, I want to point out that meat consumption is considered a sign of wealth worldwide. Most peoples of the world live on rice and corn because they can't afford meat (and perhaps for other reasons of which I may be unaware). I doubt they identify as vegan. Sure, there's a difference between people who eat organic brown rice and those who eat cheap white rice. In the US, it is considered a "luxury" to eat prime rib, etc. Poor people who eat cheap hamburgers feel like they're doing "OK" economically as long as they can have some meat on the table. It's a sign of having "made it."Sherylnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24141461.post-83711248892628894582010-02-18T10:19:17.615-08:002010-02-18T10:19:17.615-08:00My contact page is on my profile:
http://www.brya...My contact page is on my profile:<br /><br />http://www.bryannaclarkgrogan.com/page/page/2643700.htmBryanna Clark Groganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13235333928055873948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24141461.post-65153211203800232482010-02-18T08:33:00.683-08:002010-02-18T08:33:00.683-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Blase Kearneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04260646570750502004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24141461.post-66708261620799367222010-02-18T08:14:51.252-08:002010-02-18T08:14:51.252-08:00Blase, I appreciate your zeal for justice and equa...Blase, I appreciate your zeal for justice and equality, which I share, but I'm afraid that you (and the anonymous poster) have made many incorrect assumptions about me, my family heritage, education, and economic status. <br /><br />You don't appear to have read my own comment and those of others on the spelling of the New Year's greeting. <br /><br />And you really need to review what you wrote in your 4th paragraph about the people of Appalachia. <br /><br />I'm available via email if you want more discussion. <br />Sincerely, BryannaBryanna Clark Groganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13235333928055873948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24141461.post-78856802161299211872010-02-18T05:45:15.736-08:002010-02-18T05:45:15.736-08:00Bryanna, I'm sorry you had to deal with that k...Bryanna, I'm sorry you had to deal with that kind of crap contributed by a visitor who wasn't brave enough to show us his/her name. Who said "ignorant"? Happy Chinese New Year to you, and thank you for your wonderful blog and positive contribution to veganism.Sørenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08190093385451273763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24141461.post-63949220625225479962010-02-17T16:19:58.702-08:002010-02-17T16:19:58.702-08:00Interesting discussion, and thanks for your boundl...Interesting discussion, and thanks for your boundless creativity Bryanna!<br /><br /> I love the fabulous variety you provide all of us interested in plant-based cuisine… it sounds like some posters may not be aware that your audience is already worldwide! I can’t wait to try your gyozas!<br /><br />OF COURSE what one consumes is never a solely personal choice... it is influenced by many societal and cultural complexities. Bryanna, I'm sure that most people who follow your blog can tell that you are already a very politically aware, and sensitive individual who shares your knowledge thoughtfully. Vegans, of all people, know what a challenge it can be to step outside the boundaries of 'tradition'!<br /><br />We are certainly not all 'light skinned' and many of us experience being seen as an 'affront' to the 'authenticity' of our own cultures of origin by simply daring to eschew meat from our menus!<br /> <br />As a person of mixed heritage myself, I love the opportunity to learn about traditions different from my own and their various expressions through the celebration of food.<br />I’m greatful to accomplished cooks like yourself, who, understanding exactly what it means to have the privilege of choice when it comes to diet, exercise that privilege so wisely...<br /><br />By demonstrating how healthfully and deliciously it is possible to practise compassion AND environmental awareness through a plant-based diet. Keep those cross-cultural inspirations coming, Bryanna!fwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06308368251275119757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24141461.post-71671659383487973312010-02-17T09:53:38.845-08:002010-02-17T09:53:38.845-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Blase Kearneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04260646570750502004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24141461.post-61762859218241125212010-02-17T08:20:32.138-08:002010-02-17T08:20:32.138-08:00Yes, I'm aware of that, anonymous. In Vancouv...Yes, I'm aware of that, anonymous. In Vancouver, they are referred to as gyoza even in many Chinese restaurants, such as Legendary Noodle.Bryanna Clark Groganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13235333928055873948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24141461.post-24390349972816250562010-02-17T08:08:47.075-08:002010-02-17T08:08:47.075-08:00For the record, "gyoza" is the Japanese ...For the record, "gyoza" is the Japanese term for dumpling, Chinese people call them "jiaozi". Or if you're pan-frying them, "guotie" (鍋貼).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24141461.post-65182115603433099542010-02-16T01:23:37.711-08:002010-02-16T01:23:37.711-08:00Happy Chinese New Year! I prepared lots of noodle ...Happy Chinese New Year! I prepared lots of noodle and dim sum recipes! My kids loved it! It is their first time to celebrate it with them!hardwood furniturehttp://www.erikorganic.com/solid-wood/solid-wood-furniture.shtmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24141461.post-39193562220322658022010-02-13T20:15:50.805-08:002010-02-13T20:15:50.805-08:00We had a simple reunion dinner last night, just a ...We had a simple reunion dinner last night, just a vegetable dish, a chicken dish and rice. However, it was nice having the whole family (all three of us) together on the Lunar New Year Eve as my mother and brother do shift work.<br /><br />We watched a Jackie Chan movie on TV (Rob B Hood). In the past, Jackie Chan would make one movie specially for the Lunar New Year. So it was our "family tradition" to spend a few hours at the cinema during the new year holiday. http://www.yesasia.com/us/yumcha/kung-hei-fat-choy-lunar-new-year-films-in-hong-kong-cinema/0-0-0-arid.58-en/featured-article.html<br /><br />This evening, my mother will prepare Yu Sheng (raw fish salad) at home. This dish needs to be "tossed" (using chopsticks, you lift the ingredients way above the plate to mix everything up) and the higher you toss, it signifies that the higher in life you will go. In restaurants, it is customary for the waitress to say auspicious words when adding ingredients to the plates (e.g. for the deep fried crackers, she would say Jin Yu Man Tang meaning May Gold and Jade Overflow Your Halls). When tossing, everybody would also yell auspicious words like "Huat Ah!" "Huat Ah!" means "may all become rich!" This is a scene that will repeat itself in Chinese restaurants all over Singapore during the 15 days of the Lunar New Year. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDRsj2zlTDo <br /><br />Hope everybody is enjoying the Lunar New Year, no matter which part of the globe you're at :)dsowerghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01253269171539306804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24141461.post-62522320756372695762010-02-13T14:30:32.606-08:002010-02-13T14:30:32.606-08:00Oh! I can't wait to see what you did prepare, ...Oh! I can't wait to see what you did prepare, Bryanna. It sounds delicious. Let's have some recipes! :)Marienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24141461.post-88671893814621526262010-02-13T14:01:27.154-08:002010-02-13T14:01:27.154-08:00Bryanna, I just want to take a second to write tha...Bryanna, I just want to take a second to write that I'm a big fan of your blog and to thank you for it.vegheadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24141461.post-30523463692579724452010-02-13T13:18:28.890-08:002010-02-13T13:18:28.890-08:00Thank you, Eve+line and ms. veganorama, for your r...Thank you, Eve+line and ms. veganorama, for your recollections and observations, and, especially your good wishes and positivity! The cake is almost ready, the table is set, decorations up, and gyoza stuffed!Bryanna Clark Groganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13235333928055873948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24141461.post-64548304734480888032010-02-13T12:02:53.027-08:002010-02-13T12:02:53.027-08:00Geez, what a rude visitor.
As for the pronouncati...Geez, what a rude visitor.<br /><br />As for the pronouncation and whether or not it's right or wrong, it is the sentiment that counts, not the exact pronouncation. Besides, it's different in different dialects as pointed out above.<br /><br />I am having a huge mental block since I haven't celebrated with my family in several years, but we always had tangerines, candied fruit, wrapped candy and chocolate coins. If I can recall correctly, I believe there was also candied lotus root.<br /><br />One dish I do remember my family making was stirfried mung bean noodles with vegetables. It's served room temperature with lettuce pieces and you use the lettuce as wrap for the noodles.<br /><br />I guess it is different for people from different regions, but they did/do still serve meat during celebrations. <br /><br />Anyway, ignore the negative poster and have a great Lunar New Year! I think it's great that people embrace other cultural celebrations.ms. veganoramahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02456827731027081876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24141461.post-15488345069842978032010-02-13T11:53:29.423-08:002010-02-13T11:53:29.423-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.ms. veganoramahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02456827731027081876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24141461.post-65528794432543970262010-02-13T01:40:38.252-08:002010-02-13T01:40:38.252-08:00Actually, in a multi-cultural society like Singapo...Actually, in a multi-cultural society like Singapore, we celebrate all sorts of festivals - chiefly by eating! The office culture of sharing food in the pantry is prevalent and it's common to find buckets of goodies when major holidays approach.<br /><br />Of course we don't do sheep sacrifice during Eid (we call it Hari Raya Haji here) or do oil baths during Deepavali (although a large number of Chinese Buddhists DO go to Hindu temples for prayers with the Hindus). To us it is sufficient to know that our friends and colleagues are celebrating something special in their religions, and we help by sharing the workload when they're busy with their preparations. It helps that we get public holidays too!<br /><br />I leave the celebrations to the believers concerned. They do not expect us to partake of the religious ceremonies too. They do, however, appreciate an acknowledgement and good wishes and more importantly, CONSIDERATION during their celebration (e.g. do not call them back for work when they're celebrating). For food, it is always a happy thing to be able to munch on goodies like murukku and keropok.<br /><br />Oh dear I'm getting hungry already... I haven't even started cleaning my house yet and it is tradition to spring clean!dsowerghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01253269171539306804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24141461.post-91308330288494237822010-02-12T20:49:53.983-08:002010-02-12T20:49:53.983-08:00Trying to write Cantonese or other Chinese dialect...Trying to write Cantonese or other Chinese dialects phonetically is always problematic. We have a "problem" in Singlish (our local patois) too, but it's not something to kick up a big fuss over. As long as we understand each other, that's cool.<br /><br />I'm Hainanese and we say "kung hee fatt sai". Since I can't speak it very well, I'm probably pronouncing it wrong, but it's the thought that counts. More importantly, I am not saying some curse words inadvertedly!<br /><br />For that reason I stick to hanyu pinyin - at least I'm sure Gong Xi Fa Cai is canonical :)<br /><br />As for Lunar New Year food, well here're some Singaporean Chinese traditions:<br /><br />Yu Sheng or Raw Fish Salad - vegetables (Cai) sound like "fortune", and fish (Yu) means abundance (actually, "extra" meaning you have so much that you have extras left over)<br />Pineapple tarts - pineapples are called Ong Lai in Hokkien and it sounds like "good fortune come"<br />Prawn rolls - prawns are called Hae in Hokkien and hae-hae-hae sounds like laughing :D. Also prawn rolls are deep-fried so they look like gold<br />BBQ pork or bak kwa - not sure about this one. I'm sure the red and golden colour have got something to do with it!<br /><br />Anyway, the Lunar New Year season is always hazardous to the waistline. The eating starts days before and will continue for the next two weeks. Wan Shi Ru Yi (万事如意) meaning may everything go according to your wishes!dsowerghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01253269171539306804noreply@blogger.com